Editing Template talk:Infobox (section)

== Notelist inside infobox ==

There is a request at [[Template talk:Infobox sports season]] to implement [[Help:explanatory notes|explanatory notes]] inside the infobox, to avoid the notes getting confused with other groups of notes lower down the article. Apparently this has already been done at [[Template:Infobox college basketball team]]. I'm posting here in case anyone has an opinion about this, or whether this could more efficiently be coded at the meta module instead. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:So just to be clear there are infoboxs out there that have the footnotes at the end of the info box making the box longer with notes that are in very small text? Why would we clutter the lead in this way? I think I have seen this before..... this is something that pop culture articles do? <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 22:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
::I have not noticed these infoboxes previously. I think small text is a bad idea because infoboxes are already at a smaller size. The proposal at Infobox sports season is a collapsed box with the notes in &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 22:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
:::Its odd we have groups of article's so different than others and want to hide things all the time making things unaccessible. Like [[Template:Toronto Raptors]] .... why are we hiding all the links in the header? <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 22:37, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
::::It's against [[MOS:COLOUR]] which says {{tq|Links should be clearly identifiable as links for readers.}} For some time now, I have been suggesting that ''if'' navboxes need colours that are not the default, the approach taken by the religious people has its merits. See for example [[Tricia Hillas#References|the navboxes at Tricia Hillas]]. Only the topmost bar is styled, to have: background white; unlinked text black; linked text default; top and bottom borders coloured. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 08:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::Why are we talking about colour? It is not relevant to what is being discussed here &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
::::::Moxy asked "why are we hiding all the links in the header?" To me they're hidden by being the same colour as the unlined text. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::::.... Perhaps I better be more clear here. Why is it that sports projects go out of their way to hide links and information in most of their templates..... for example colored links and of hiding the sources/notes in an info box. <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 22:04, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:::To the original question: examples please, of where these notes are present within the infobox. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 08:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
::::There are some examples in the [[Template:Infobox sports season/testcases|/testcases]] &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
FWIW, I fixed the [[MOS:SMALLFONT]] accessibility problem at {{tl|Infobox college basketball team}} that was caused by embedding a {{tl|notelist}} inside an infobox. That sort of fix would be needed for any other infobox that included the same embedding. You can see notes in an infobox at [[LIU Sharks men's basketball]]. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 20:09, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{re|Jonesey95}} I added your solution to the accessibility problem to [[Help:Footnotes#Issues]]. Inspired by a comment from [[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]], I looked at several infoboxes that allow for the display of footnotes. They generally do so by creating a series of parameters, which limits the number of footnotes available (not necessarily a bad thing). I did not find any others that call {{tlx|notelist}}, which seems far more simple to me. Hopefully, if anyone else decides to implement this, they will see the note I left on the help page. I'm glad MSGJ reached out this talk page for advice. Thanks for your help. [[User:Taxman1913|Taxman1913]] ([[User talk:Taxman1913|talk]]) 19:02, 14 July 2025 (UTC)